There was a logic for the family dissolving the enterprise which was hard to overcome with the attraction of a sale. So we brought those things together; we did a big show, and we borrowed from major collections. Or not. No, no. But I think that afterand this is why I talk about when the Chinese entered the marketplace. I would have left that to, you know, others in the art market to decide whether they would do it. Jon Landau I certainly know more. Again, an opportunity. And, of course, the idea they were in Egypt would add to that kind of, you know, sort of desert mystique of the whole thing. JUDITH RICHARDS: for the field. You want toyou want to sort ofyou know, you want to have a completely catalogued collection, with every example of, you know, canceled, non-cancelled. She was getting her start around then. JUDITH RICHARDS: But you started out displaying these 300? So that is something I did with them. So the short answer is that they may like to have it. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Much too generous with attributions. It's King Seuthes III. And by the time I was born, he was deceased and the family was bankrupt. [Laughs. It was justit was this hoarding, boxing, newspapering, closing the box, knowing what's in the box, and moving it over, and getting another box. JUDITH RICHARDS: Is that similar tois that situation similar to other galleries in London that have once had 40 employees in the field and now are reduced to this kind of more focused business? So, I was in Plovdiv and, you know, had a good time with wandering around, you know. Clifford Schorer, a Boston-based collector, forgot to bring a present for the party he was attending, so he stopped by a bookstore that sold collectables on . Thank you! And I stillI still have quite a few drawings that are related to paintings that are interesting to me. I think they also probably were in New York at that point. I would say George Abrams is the kind of collector that, you know, is, you know, someoneI spent, I don't know, nine hours with him on Sunday. JUDITH RICHARDS: What about relationships within those years, with local museum curators? Absolutely. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Well, the big London galleries. There wereby the time, I mean, by the time Ithe irony of the story is that I then became a bankruptcy liquidator. But, yeah, I had a programming job there. I went to Harvard, I said, "I've got to get the microfilm for the Medici Archive." CLIFFORD SCHORER: Johnny Van Haeften. It was 2007 or '08. [Laughs.] But my desire to live in the middle of nowherethis was in Meriden, New Hampshire, which was literally the middle of nowherewith 400 other. I'm reasonably good at language, and I tried. But if we can say, Engage with this art on your terms. We had to get translations and then figure out whether the translations were right, and then write programs for them. He said, "Let's do a Lotte Laserstein show." And then the real estate. And they didn't hire me as a senior programmer analyst, but they did hire me as a programmer analyst. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Sure. JUDITH RICHARDS: Okay. In that case, yes. JUDITH RICHARDS: Did you ever buy them in the mail, like kids did? You know, we don't provide client services the way that the firm did back then. I mean, there wereit was such a different time. And I had to take it into various pieces. Was it something you had been looking for as an opportunity? Traditional age to start college? JUDITH RICHARDS: Because you couldn't be competing. But I'm pleased that I was lucky enough to be at the right moment in history, where the relative scholarship might have been weaker than it could otherwise have been, which would allow me to find a rather large gap in the fence through which I could walk, if you see how careful I'm trying to be. clifford schorer winslow homer. Or just the, CLIFFORD SCHORER: So, the Adoration is atis in London at Agnew's Gallery at the moment, and The Taking of Christ is in Worcester, hanging, JUDITH RICHARDS: Is that a long-term loan? So it was more aboutit was more about the business of the trade of these things. They're rare, of course. [00:12:00]. And I was so, Oh, my God, you know, that's incredible. And pretty much after 13, I never went back home again. But there is a long-term plan that the museum and I are talking about for the things they want to keep. I mean, you know, recently we did some work on Joseph Wright of Derby, and Cleveland bought our Joseph Wright of Derby. CLIFFORD SCHORER: They were basedI think they'rewell, I mean, I know them as international, but, yes, they're based in London. And Colnaghi is still extremely ambitious; I think they still have 40 employees, and, you know, their ambition may or may not be equaled by a marketplace that can sustain their ambition, but, you know, time will tell on that. I'm trying to remember the estimate; I think the estimate was either [$]2 to 3 million, or 1.5 to 2.5, but it was very enticing compared to the asking price. JUDITH RICHARDS: Good morning. The discovery hinges on the unlikely meeting of two men: Clifford Schorer, an entrepreneur and art dealer who specializes in recovering the lost works of Old Masters, and Brainerd Phillipson, a . But I did buy things that were interesting. JUDITH RICHARDS: Did you buy a seat for it? I mean, there are many historical examples of seeing some particular painting in a museum and just standing there for 25 minutes and saying, you know, "I can't believe this painting. So I joined that, which was a lot of fun. JUDITH RICHARDS: You mean you went down at 15? There are some institutions now that are speaking to me about things that they've borrowed that they really feel have become integral to their hang, and they want to keep them, and so that's a harder conversation, because, A, I may not be at the point where I want to sell the work, or, B, it may not make any sense from a tax standpoint, because I have given quite a bit, so I don't have much deductibility. I was definitelywe had a pretty weak art library at the Boston Public Library because it was all behind a key, so you had to apply for a book. [00:54:00]. CLIFFORD SCHORER: So I still spent a lot of my timeregional auction houses, and I had expanded by then to go to the library and look at all the French auction houses. [Affirmative.] And as I said, I mean, that was ait was a wise decision to buy Chinese. [00:34:00]. This exhibition reconsiders Homer's work through the lens of conflict, a theme that crosses his prolific career. You know, finding things that people just miss. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Just the gallery in London, right. "I want to collect from the beginning, in the early 18th century, to the present; I wantI want this kind of collection or that kind of collection? CLIFFORD SCHORER: And then it moves to Amsterdam, you know. So we're changingone by one, we're changing the buildings. There was a stegosaurus that came up from the Badlands in South Dakota that I didn't move on fast enough, and then there was a triceratops that I didn't move on fast enough, but I had a second opportunity when the owner passed away. But they just weren'twith that type of a seller you need to be cash at the ready, because it's notthey're not going to bethese are folks you're approaching to say, "I may have a client for" They don't want to hear the next statement, "Well, I'd take a commission if you give it to me for a year to try to sell it." Winslow Homer. And a very helpful dealer in Spain finally made the last connection to find the actual apartment. You know, and I was trying to do my best to go along with that because I thought it was a ticket to yet another city. CLIFFORD SCHORER: G-A-T-I-A. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Give up all my business interests and retire to sort of a conversational job where I sat in a shop, and I played shopkeeper, and people came in and looked at my furniture and told me how overpriced it was. But, I mean, I can tell, you know, when yet another picture arises from a certain quarter, what we're dealing with. CLIFFORD SCHORER: No, no. It's what leads to bankruptcies in galleries, is buying too much stock and not selling it fast enough. I had two, and I had to sell both. CLIFFORD SCHORER: That was based on opportunism, because some of the greatestsix of the greatest Pre-Raphaelite paintings ever made were available to us at that moment. So he came for the opening. JUDITH RICHARDS: Did you think it's a mark of a good dealer that he will engage in that conversation without pressing you to find out who you are? And they let me bring that on the plane. [00:16:00]. JUDITH RICHARDS: Do you speak to art historians who have. You can spend as much money as you want; if you open a door, you're going to change the humidity. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yes. We've been using their fabrics as our wall coverings in our booths, and, you know, amazing. So. I like Paris. He said, "Yes, I'm Jim." CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yes, absolutely. Is that whole chapter of, CLIFFORD SCHORER: So that whole story is fresh scholarship. You know, it's a hydra; I could wrap my arms around and, you know, slowly get a handle on what the risks are, because it is a big beast. So I went to Gillette, and they hadthey were looking for a programmer analysta senior programmer analyst. And the focus was much more British 20th century. And it came up for bid, and I was bidding on it, and I think it ended up pushing over [$]1.7 [million], and I was out. I mean, there's so many things in New York. No, no, no. Someone mentioned the name Mark Fisch to meJon Landau. So we're all competing for the same limited consignments, for examplegalleries and the auction houses. I had to advocate and argue for it, and that did sort of achieve the goal I had set for it, which is a relatively universal acceptance. JUDITH RICHARDS: Do they focusexcuse my ignorance. For me, it's that doorway into history. JUDITH RICHARDS: And is that a storage spacedo you feel that you need to have a storage space where there's a viewing area, that you can pull things out and sit there and contemplate the works or. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah, meaning that I would be a more serious financial player in the art market, not a face. So I'm sure that somewhere they've usedyou know, time goes by, and they use your name. I know you read books. So here's my third bite at the apple. [Laughs.]. [1:02:00], CLIFFORD SCHORER: It's by Antonio de Pereda. And I don't think that a manual was consulted more than once. Schorer. CLIFFORD SCHORER: For paintings, well, we have to divide that now. JUDITH RICHARDS: Is this something that youthat the Worcester Art Museum had to deal with, or have they always had good-quality climate control? I mean, you know, when I think back to the Guercino that, you know, I find in a little catalogue, and then I do the work, you know, it is very gratifying to have something, especially something like van Dyck, which is, to me, you know, in the pantheon of gods. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yes, andbut more than that: the artists that interest me and the types of subjects that engage me, they are broader than, I think, most collectors, because most collectors say, "I want one great Dutch or Flemish picture per year. And so, in this case, weyou know, I really got ready for it, and I expected it to be, you know, the same price as the last time, and I was prepared for that. I mean, as a matter of fact, CLIFFORD SCHORER: There was a day when I all of sudden said, you know, I can collect paintings. I'm thinking that we want Agnew's to be scaled for the marketplace, and I don't think that being that large is the correct scale today. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it was quite ait was quite a big disparity in age. I would go to HtelDrouot and spend the entire day, day after day after day. You know, because at the time that's not the way they thought about those things. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, those are very exciting moments. And they said, "You're out of your mind." JUDITH RICHARDS: I mean, certainly in the war zone [laughs], I suspect you were on your own. And, you know, for example, Anthony decided he wanted to do a Lotte Laserstein show. I said, "Okay.". I mean, he and I did engineering projects from the age ofage 11, he would give me. And so, you know, now that I see they're buying great things, they're talking to people I know about pictures I know, about things I know about, and that creates an inherent conflict. [00:04:00], JUDITH RICHARDS: Which, if there's one person. The problem is, I've always had to forget about all of the things in my path until recently. I just, you know. It's Poseidon or something," you know. Because I know I started my business in 1983, in March, and that wasI was 17 then. So I think back then it was much more about a buying strategy, and, you know, I think now I would say, Be very cautious and very slow, because now the market is created to separate you from your money and, JUDITH RICHARDS: And this applies to specifically Italian Baroque or any of the areas you've, CLIFFORD SCHORER: generally speaking, what's happened is the auction market, which used to be a wholesaler's market, has become a mass market, and as such, the marketing techniques employed have become mass-market marketing techniques. My grandfather, who was a very technical manvery poorly educated, but a very technical manhe could take apart any machine and put it back together. [Affirmative.] Then we did the Lotte Laserstein, the Weimar German show, where we borrowed from the German state institutions for the first time ever, as I understand it, as a private gallery, borrowed from museums, Berlin specifically. I don't even know. But for those moments of flourishing, when they were a key point, you know, look what they produced. We can cover a lot of auctions in a night. JUDITH RICHARDS: I imagine you wanted to preserve the goodwill of the name of Agnew's. JUDITH RICHARDS: So while thesewe're talking about these early collecting experiences. I had businesses I was running to make money. And, you know, a picture that always has its place in art history, always has its story, and more than that, it's a segue into the story of the person in the painting, the sitter of the painting. Taste-making is a very difficult game, and, you know, obviously, we're outgunned by Vogue magazine, all the way down toyou know, Cond Nast Publications to, you know, you name itto Sotheby's. [Affirmative.] I mean, I'm doing the floors in my new buildings. JUDITH RICHARDS: Let's say the deluxe model. So, you knowand the money they made is what made the Rembrandts. JUDITH RICHARDS: Hello. Before we get to thatso that's 2008, about? CLIFFORD SCHORER: So, Russian and Bulgarian. Is that the case? But I mean, as you became, CLIFFORD SCHORER: No, no, no. CLIFFORD SCHORER: You know, selling a 50,000 work when you have 800,000 in overheadif you're on a commission basis, you have to sell a lot of 50,000 works. Well, we still have some aspects of those things, but certainly not at the scale. Local fishing used both lines and nets, and the women were responsible for maintaining and preparing them for the men. Like a Boule chandelier. Retouching, restoration [00:44:00]. JUDITH RICHARDS: There are new warehouses all the time, I think, going up, and there's that new one in Long Island City. And they didn't have a real understanding. I did put them in boxes and move them to deep storage. And then send it away andI'm trying to remember who did the book. JUDITH RICHARDS: But thoseas your collection, perhaps you'd say, entered a mature phase. How much institutions' collecting is based on what collectors want to collect versuspossibly versus what the curators want to collect. CLIFFORD SCHORER: And that was talking to art historians, which is something. CLIFFORD SCHORER: I don't even know. And I'm trying to remember exactly what it hammered down at, but it hammered down at the reserve, which was something like [$]680,000, CLIFFORD SCHORER: to me. So I go in there, find thisthere's this little Plexiglas box, and inside this Plexiglas box is the most breathtaking bronze I have ever seen. JUDITH RICHARDS: Is there anything else you want to talk about in terms of future aspirations? JUDITH RICHARDS: under the circumstances. So I said, "Give me a little while to think about it," and I went to walk around TEFAF. So we went down thereat 13, when he moved down there. I mean, the output of those workshops was massive, massive. So, no. CLIFFORD SCHORER: So, I mean, I would say that all of those things would be exciting and fun to do, but unfortunately, I don't have the ability to do them all. So my father was encouraged by that, and sort of dragged me on a little field trip to Boston and took me around to the colleges. And he had, you know, many, many, many layers of very valueless stamps, but didn't have the time to bother with them. But, yes, I mean, I think having a high-end warehouse where, you knowI would like to be the service provider in that equation and not the gallerist, because, to me, it'sno matter what you do, it's a clinical experience. Rich Dahm, co-executive producer and head writer of The Colbert Report. So. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Maybe, maybe so. And just, you know, wander around and pull books. There were definitelyit would definitelyI mean, there are still major goals that are unachieved thatyou know, there's a whole list, yes, and there are some with highlighting, some without, some that are possible, some that are not. JUDITH RICHARDS: level of your interest. And he moonlighted teaching financial management at Boston University Metropolitan College, which was their evening school. And you know, the American catastrophe. JUDITH RICHARDS: So this was the mid-'80s? [00:04:00]. ", I mean, one experience like that was seeing Ribera in the Capodimonte when the room where the Ribera was was closed, and so I had to negotiate with this very large Italian woman who was blocking the entrance to the room to say, "Look, I came to see that painting." So, no, I didn't look to the collection to fund the next wave of the collection. Alf Clausen, film composer. I mean, a story I'm obsessed with is theis the German scientist who invented the nitrate process for fertilizer, because in his hands lies the population explosion of the 20th century. Now, that's where the museum world and my personal life intersected, because of the Worcester Art Museum. They will charge the buyer 20 to 25 percent." Being self taught, he practised with water colours and started his career as a commercial illustrator. You know, et cetera. Having old art in New England is not the easiest thing, because of humidity control, which is almost impossible. I've got some Islamic examples. But I didn't buy it with much of a focus on the painting itself. The painting, valued at 100,000, was then handed over to Sotheby's New York for auction in May 2009.. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yes. CLIFFORD SCHORER: and that's an area that, as I've expanded my interest in, because Agnew's has such a deep archive on that material, so, you know, one of the first big projects we did with Anthony [Crichton-Stuart] was a phenomenal Pre-Raphaelite exhibition and show, and, you know. Of course. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah. JUDITH RICHARDS: That would mean three or four years? [Laughs.] And the angels that were attending Marythe detail that got me was they had a sunburn, but the straps of their sandals had fallen down, and you could see the outline of the sunburn where their sandal straps were. And often that's not a message that's simple enough for people to understand. Your perspective is unusually broad, at least it used to be. As a young man, he was apprenticed to a commercial lithographer for two years before becoming a freelance illustrator in 1857. CLIFFORD SCHORER: I wouldn'tI would probably never acquire another gallery, because that wouldI mean, I think I would probably be more of a financial investor in other art businesses, potentially service businesses. JUDITH RICHARDS: Are there any other [laughs] collections other than that? My Antwerp pre-1600 pictures were all on panel. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah. ", CLIFFORD SCHORER: "We know he dropped out after two and a half years, but you want this guy." You know, that wasn't interesting to me. [00:10:02], JUDITH RICHARDS: When you started out in this field, did you have a general sense of where you wanted to go? And I think if you're focused enough to stay on the object, you know, to think at core about the transaction with your object and not listen to all the other noise and hype and marketing and, you know, all of that, and if you can learn as much as you can about that one object you're interested in, if you lose this one, so be it, you know. And I said, "Well, I'm not going back.". CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah, Nazi loot. Menu. And, you knowand I sent them a commendation letter afterwards. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yes. CLIFFORD SCHORER: before that. Those are the kinds of moments, you know. If you lose it for price or other matters, so be it. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Mm-hmm. JUDITH RICHARDS: But what about the issue of who do they actually belong to, and do they belong to the culture, the local museum? Three, four months. CLIFFORD SCHORER: managing their affairs. [00:10:02]. But, yes, there did come a time when I sold the house, where I said, you knowall the blue-and-white went to Sotheby's. So, all of my companies are project companies; they only make money if my projects are executed and are successful. CLIFFORD SCHORER: So, yes. And made their own discoveries. JUDITH RICHARDS: And his work came to your attention how? I would not have looked for anyone else. So you've gotyou can put them side by side. CLIFFORD SCHORER: You don't often find neglected objects, but luckily, this one was neglected because it was so recently found, and now it's sort of risen to the top of the pile immediately. Likewise, have there been specific curatorsyou mentioned manywho have played an important part in your education, in your development of your interests? CLIFFORD SCHORER: They painted half a million paintings in the Dutch Netherlands between 1600 and 1650. So. And, you know, because of that, it creates incredible attribution controversies, which are passionate arguments about. CLIFFORD SCHORER: I think so. And that's reallythat was more of, you know, expanding the things that I could do. These 27 are unaffordable. JUDITH RICHARDS: Would you say that's one of the most gratifying occasions, and that that kind of experience is a key element for driving you to that kind of scholarship and scholarly discoveries, driving you as a collector? But that wasn't what brought me to it. [Laughs.] CLIFFORD SCHORER: Butyeah, I mean, there are occasionswe did a 5,000 years of portraiture show with an Egyptian Fayum and a Lucien Freud. So for them to have, you know, something that is at that levelI mean, compared to broken pieces of pots, which is what the rest of the museum was, you know, broken fragments of pots and maybe some rings. I mean, it's been a lot more fun than I ever would have imagined. But, I mean, those areof course, I'd lend for any lecture series that made sense, you know. And, you know, we were talking yesterday about the Museum of Science. JUDITH RICHARDS: because most of the material was only sold at auction? And his son, Caleb, is also deceased. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah. So when I turned 15 and a half, I think, I was legally able to leave high school. CLIFFORD SCHORER: Yeah. JUDITH RICHARDS: What did you call it? CLIFFORD SCHORER: which I will acquire. CLIFFORD SCHORER: History. I wrote in English and I got a response in English, so. Largely self-taught, Homer began his career working as a commercial illustrator. CLIFFORD SCHORER: No. Clifford J. Schorer is known for Plutonium Baby (1987). I mean, you know, we have aboutI'm trying to remember how many photographs there are. And old man Lewis and I had a few passing conversations in the hallway of his building. So there was another one, and that ended upI ended up personally selling that withthrough Agnew's to the Antwerp Museum as their only first period van Dyck sketch. And I found it; it was an ambassadorial gift to the Spanish ambassador, and found the exact painting and everything. JUDITH RICHARDS: Well, that's it. It's a very long cycle, so you can't think about it as "I need a salary this year," you know, from the ownership standpoint. So all of that was interesting, and there was no need there to say, Okay, you know, from the Nanking Cargo-type of plate, there are 15 different floral varieties. JUDITH RICHARDS: So you describe the place you live in Boston as not as having one work of art, right now. For example, I am a big fan of [Giulio Cesare] Procaccini. CLIFFORD SCHORER: In the Boston area. I'll go back to college, if they want me. And then we. JUDITH RICHARDS: Yeah. I thought for sure this is someyes, this is some Renaissance, you know, late Renaissance thing, or even early Baroque thing, that, you know, is amazing. I mean, I would call Frederick Ilchman; I would call somebody, and I would say, "Who should I talk to about this person?" Contact Reference Services for more information. So I dropped. He lived a fascinating life; working as a commercial illustrator, an artist-correspondent for the Civil War, being published on commemorative stamps and achieving financial success as a fine artist. CLIFFORD SCHORER: And I bought a lot of blue-and-white from Kangxi and Qianlong because that, again, was what was plentiful in the New England homes. It got out of hand, and I made a concerted effort to say, you know, "I have to scale this down, because if I fall down dead tomorrow, someone's going to have, you know, I would say, a William Randolph Hearst-scale cleanup to do. Available in a range of colours and styles for men, women, and everyone. It was not in the market; it was in an institution. He's a good director. Is your name Jim?" The divorce began when I was four. When Harper's sent him to Virginia to cover the Civil War, he found his forte in closely observing camp life, attending to "the ordinary foot soldier," Cross notes, "not the general . Winslow Homer was a landscape artist. JUDITH RICHARDS: it's kind of easy to figure out. So it would have been a matter of, "If you're not available to me, that's fine; I won't do the project." CLIFFORD SCHORER: As it is by irresponsible, you know, people. You know, I electrified it when I got it home, because it was a gasit was a gas and candle, so. Well, I think Agnew's has to stay small, and I think that that's challenging, because Agnew's hadhas always had big ambitions. JUDITH RICHARDS: Well, you still have conservation in the galleries. CLIFFORD SCHORER: I mean, it wasn't expected. And fortunately, as I outlined earlier, I can look at an Antwerp picture orrarely, but sometimes, an Amsterdam picture and an Italian picture, you know, a Naples picture or a Roman picture, so I have maybe three or four opportunities a year where most collectors might have one. And then I'd come back and make a lot of money for three weeks [laughs], and then I'd travel for three weeks. I'm trying to think what other fairs we've done. [They laugh.]. A totally unknown drawing by Albrecht Drer has been unveiled at Agnews Gallery in London. So that's why it's amazing now, because we're at a time when people are out hunting all the time, which is great. JUDITH RICHARDS: When those things happen, are youbuyers at auction aren't identified. CLIFFORD SCHORER: I do not. [Laughs.]. Not that my collection is that important, but even the idea that I'm sort of peeling off the wheat from the chaff in any way. [00:22:00], CLIFFORD SCHORER: You'll never be done. CLIFFORD SCHORER: the natural entre into it. They had a big sale in the '80s, and just three or four weeks ago they had a sale of Dodo Dorrance, who was the daughter of Jack Dorrance, and in that sale was a beautiful Cezanne, really beautiful Cezanne. CLIFFORD SCHORER: So where some of the other investors may have made a very small return because theytheir gains were diluted by the lossesI was very focused on, you know, "I want this painting and this painting and this painting." CLIFFORD SCHORER: I had a little bit of disposable income. 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